“Science Refutes God” Debate

I just finished watching the “Science Refutes God” debate.  Although I am not a huge fan of Krauss and Shermer, I thought they did a decent job.  As I was watching, I nearly jumped out of my seat with some arm-chair quaterbacking…”ask this next!!!”.  D’Sousa claimed that the Bible predicted the Big Bang (i.e. universe from nothing) thousands of years before science.  He also admitted that the day and night before the Sun was not true (around 1 hr and 20 minutes in), was refuted by science, and was really the product of a fundamentalist reading of the bible.  The next question out of Krauss’ mouth should have been, “by what criterea do you decide what is true in the Bible?”  What D’Sousa was doing was saying that, where we have learned things from science and one can plausibly read the Bible in the same way, then that is true in the Bible.  Otherwise, it is false in the Bible.  In this case, the Bible is making no predictions, because it has many claims which cannot be demonstrated to be true except through science.  It’s like you rattle off a whole series of random digits, like (and I did this by computer):

3, 6, 4, 3, 1, 0, 2, 9, 7, 8, 6, 4, 1, 1, 6, 8, 9, 5, 3, 4, 0, 6, 9, 9, 4, 6, 4, 9, 6, 9, 3, 8, 6, 8, 3, 9, 6, 9, 8, 1, 4, 0, 9, …

and then noting, hey, this starts with a “3”, and look at some of the other digits (in bold):

3, 6, 4, 3, 1, 0, 2, 9, 7, 8, 6, 4, 1, 1, 6, 8, 9, 5, 3, 4, 0, 6, 9, 9, 4, 6, 4, 9, 6, 9, 3, 8, 6, 8, 3, 9, 6, 9, 8, 1, 4, 0, 9, …

you see the digits of pi!  (a small note – I was planning on running the random number generator many times, to make sure that this example started with 3, to make my point about the starting value, and lo! it came up the first time anyway!)




About brianblais

I am a professor of Science and Technology at Bryant University in Smithfield, RI, and a research professor in the Institute for Brain and Neural Systems, Brown University. My research is in computational neuroscience and statistics. I teach physics, meteorology, astonomy, theoretical neuroscience, systems dynamics, artificial intelligence and robotics. My book, "Theory of Cortical Plasticity" (World Scientific, 2004), details a theory of learning and memory in the cortex, and presents the consequences and predictions of the theory. I am an avid python enthusiast, and a Bayesian (a la E. T. Jaynes), and love music.
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2 Responses to “Science Refutes God” Debate

  1. john says:

    A very big deception of the devil is to get you to debate God, Christianity and other religions. This is one of the surest ways to ensure, that you will never experience real salvation and eternal life, and all the wonderful things God has predestined for you.

    Let us just suppose (for those who do not have faith), that even if you argue and debate, and finally, even if it is a long shot, and you finally are logically convinced (by the way, there are many books,eg by thomas equinas that logically prove the christian faith) that there is a God, and that He is the christian God. Does it mean you are going to heaven, just because you are mentally or intellectually convinced that Jesus is God??????

    Not at all. Not unless you have a spiritual experience called being born again.A logical belief in Christianity will prevent you from experiencing the Real Deal, that is a Spiritual Salvation in Christ in the following ways:

    The devil was once a mighty archangel, and presently with billions of demons, evil spirits, unclean spirits, etc with a far superior intelligence than humans.Each human being is assigned to tens, if not hundreds of evil spirits and demon hordes, that would love for you to deny their existence. For if you deny their existence, then surely you will deny God’s existence. It is extremely easy, 1,2,3 steps for Satan to deceive humans in more than a thousand ways.

    Don’t even think you can compete with satan intellectually. However, he has no control over your heart, and what you choose to believe.And that is the loophole, which God has opened up for you. The faith route is the only way you can bypass Satan,and his cronies who guard the intellectual gates of the human mind.

    When you get in to the logic debate about God, few important things to consider in SPIRITUAL WORLD which is what actually matters:

    1) You could be tempted to fall into the dungeon of SPIRITUAL PRIDE, as you are tricked into judging Almighty God, which is a fool’s folly.Spiritual pride was the reason, for satan’s downfall. Also for man’s downfall, in garden of eden, as eve sucumbed to the temptation about being as knowledgeable as God.

    This could also result in the person who is logically convinced that Jesus is God, as an intellectual knowledge of the truth, will become a STUMBLING BLOCK for a real SPIRITUAL SALVATION experience.

    2) It could also lead to DECEPTION as the person, cannot find God in the intellectual domain, but only in the Spiritual domain. God’s thoughts are far higher than yours, mine and the devil’s, so you have to trust Him at His word. As it is written in the bible:
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

    God is spirit, only a spiritual born again experience can save the person, and the first thing to do is to humble ourselves. Second, we need deliverance from demonic spirits of unbelief that hold people as captives. This can be done if the person humbles himself/herself and receives Jesus Christ into the heart. Deliverance can be done even online, and specific prayers can set the captives free.

    I speak from experience. Not here to argue with anyone.

    Simple challenge for those who are sincere: Ask God to open your eyes, and to reveal Himself to you.Ask in JESUS name.Simple. Try it. IT WORKS

  2. brianblais says:

    Hello John, You say “I speak from experience. Not here to argue with anyone.” – but then make claims like “Ask God to open your eyes, and to reveal Himself to you.Ask in JESUS name.Simple. Try it. IT WORKS”.

    I have tried this, and it doesn’t work. Further, the same is said of Allah, in support of Islam, or of the Tao, or any number of other religions. My questions would be, what evidence do you have for your beliefs? Do you have any evidence that this character “Satan” actually exists? Do you have anything beyond personal revelation? For that matter, is the “spiritual realm” even defined?

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